Issue 62594 - Improve 'Drop Caps' functionality for fixed line spacings
Summary: Improve 'Drop Caps' functionality for fixed line spacings
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.2
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
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Reported: 2006-02-26 22:54 UTC by boardquake
Modified: 2013-08-07 14:38 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Attachments
example of bad drop caps (10.67 KB, application/vnd.sun.xml.writer)
2006-02-27 14:54 UTC, boardquake
no flags Details
the competition (20.00 KB, application/msword)
2006-02-27 14:56 UTC, boardquake
no flags Details
Screen capture of possible formatting problem with DropCaps (3.03 KB, image/png)
2006-02-27 17:31 UTC, ace_dent
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Description boardquake 2006-02-26 22:54:02 UTC
Drop Caps should work for any spacing.

Try setting a paragraph with 18pt fixed spacing, with a drop capital for 2-3
lines. It appears deformed and disproportionally high. Change paragraph spacing
to 1.5 or double spacing. See?
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2006-02-27 07:52:24 UTC
To me it looks quite o.k. Could you please attach a small document to show the
problem?
Thank you very much!
Comment 2 boardquake 2006-02-27 14:54:10 UTC
Created attachment 34473 [details]
example of bad drop caps
Comment 3 boardquake 2006-02-27 14:56:40 UTC
Created attachment 34474 [details]
the competition
Comment 4 ace_dent 2006-02-27 17:30:29 UTC
Tested with OOo 2.0.1, WinXP.

It took me some time to see what the problem might be. I have attached a
comparison based on boardquake's test documents, with layout differences marked.
When setting DropCaps, the User specifies the number of text lines this should
'drop' across. In the test documents this is set to 2 lines. However, the height
of the drop caps font, doesn't account for the paragraph line spacing. Using MS
Word for comparison, the height of the DropCaps is adjusted so that it always
spans the two text lines with a constant spacing (marked red). However, for OOo
the spacing (red) varies because the DropCaps height is not adjusted.

->'boardquake', have I understood the problem correctly? If so, you might want
to modify the Issue summary to something more clear, e.g. :
"Drop Caps formatting is not adjusted for variable line heights"

Regards,
Andrew. 
Comment 5 ace_dent 2006-02-27 17:31:35 UTC
Created attachment 34487 [details]
Screen capture of possible formatting problem with DropCaps
Comment 6 boardquake 2006-02-27 17:45:44 UTC
You nailed it.

I don't know how to change the summary, so you're welcome to do it.
Perhaps is should be "fixed" with double quotes, because that's the ooo term; to
me it's "leading" (the typographic term).

The problem is that we still think in terms of single-1.5-double spacing, which
are computer-standard, but are simply bad text-setting. Show me a
professionally-designed book or publication set in those spacing settings.
Comment 7 ace_dent 2006-02-27 22:47:54 UTC
Updated issue summary. From Typography 101 (off Google):
"Leading" is the typographic term that describes vertical spacing between lines;
the word originates from when the space between lines was filled with lead slugs
of specific sizes that controlled the vertical spacing. This term has been
adopted throughout the industry as a way to describe the distance, in points
from baseline to baseline, of rows of type characters.
Comment 8 michael.ruess 2006-02-28 08:43:44 UTC
Yes, now I can see the problem. The drop caps look a little larger when used in
fixed line spacing. It looks that Writer also evaluates the spacing for the
first line of a paragraph. The attached document shows well the difference.